(exWTslave, any reply would be appreciated)
"If evil and suffering exist, it proves man has chosen evil and its resultant suffering!"
ExWTSlave... Animals did not choose to suffer.
Why did God design animals to suffer and kill each other in painful ways, long before 'mankinds fall' ??
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/222352/1/Theists-why-does-God-allow-suffering#.U-jYul2t-o8
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Atheists and JWs are on the same footing!
by exWTslave inatheists believe that god should stop the large-scale injustice on earth; if he does'nt, then he does not exist.
jws believe that god will intervene sometime in the last days!.
interestingly, both throw themselves on their own expectation of soemthing god should or will do, yet in fact something god does not have to do.
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Douglas Walsh Trial Testimony - Take II
by waiting ini posted this yesterday, but friend's discussion is going on - and i really think this is a fascinating display on what obedience to the wtbts means to the gb or parts thereof.. obedience for the sake of unity to the organization is valued over anything else - including truth.
the douglas walsh triah took place in 1954. the vice president of the wtbts, fred franz, and the wtbts legal counsel, haydon covington, each gave testimony before the british court.. fred franz and haydon covington were testifying that some of its members were ordained ministers.. the man asking the questions is attorney for the ministry of labour and national service, part of which follows:.
q. is it not vital to speak the truth on religious matters?
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Best..quote..ever.
"Q. Back to the point now. A false prophesy was promulgated?
A. I agree that.
Q. It had to be accepted by Jehovah’s Witnesses?
A. That is correct.
Q. If a member of Jehovah’s Witnesses took the view himself that that prophesy was wrong and said so he would be disfellowshipped?
A. Yes, if he said so and kept persisting in creating trouble, because if the whole organisation believes one thing, even though it be erronious and somebody else starts on his own trying to put his ideas across then there is disunity and trouble, there cannot be harmony, there cannot be marching. When a change comes it should come from the proper source, the head of the organisation, the governing body, not from the bottom upwards, because everybody would have ideas, and the organisation would disintegrate and go in a thousand different directions. Our purpose is to have unity.
Q. Unity at all costs?
A. Unity at all costs, because we believe and are sure that Jehovah God is using our organisation, the governing body of our organisation to direct it, even though mistakes are made from time to time.
Q. And unity based upon an enforced acceptance of false prophecy?
A. That is conceded to be true.
Q. And the person who expressed his view, as you say, that it was wrong, and was disfellowshipped, would be in breach of the Covenant, if he was baptized?
A. That is correct.
Q. And as you said yesterday expressly, would be worthy of death?
A. I think – – –
Q. Would you say yes or no?
A. I will answer yes, unhesitatingly.
Q. Do you call that religion?
A. It certainly is.
Q. Do you call it Christianity?
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Atheists and JWs are on the same footing!
by exWTslave inatheists believe that god should stop the large-scale injustice on earth; if he does'nt, then he does not exist.
jws believe that god will intervene sometime in the last days!.
interestingly, both throw themselves on their own expectation of soemthing god should or will do, yet in fact something god does not have to do.
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"If evil and suffering exist, it proves man has chosen evil and its resultant suffering!"
ExWTSlave... Animals did not choose to suffer.
Why did God design animals to suffer and kill each other in painful ways, long before 'mankinds fall' ??
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/222352/1/Theists-why-does-God-allow-suffering#.U-jYul2t-o8 -
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Why did John Walsh, "The Hunt" Pedophile Brother Mclean Show a Birthday Cake?
by BucketShopBill inwho caught the photo of the eight year-old birthday cake photo?
the show was better than no publicity, i think any type of news informing the public there is a problem that exists with pedophiles in setting we assume are safe is good.
what's up with the birthday cake, what did you think?
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TONIGHT (Sunday 8-10-2014) FBI's "Most Wanted" Brother Mclean "CNN's" "THE HUNT". 1 HOUR INTERVIEW.
by BucketShopBill ingood morning brothers and sisters, remember to watch john walsh interview our brothers and sisters about brother mclean from oregon, the most wanted pedophile and top ten fbi's list of perps!
have a nice day, be cool!.
can you help bump this topic until the show is over, we have large amounts of vistors coming, seeking help and direction.
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Deary me. DocHouse would be in the doghouse, wouldn't he, if the elders knew that he had apostate views..
DocHouse said:"The WTBS promotes a lot of goofy opinion as FACT (such as Jesus has RULED for 100 years!)."
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http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20140115/100-years-kingdom-rule/
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"3 Because we regularly study God’s Word, we can see that prophecy is being fulfilled right now. What a contrast with people in general! They are so involved in their lives and pursuits that they overlook the clear evidence that Christ has been ruling since 1914.."
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20140115/let-your-kingdom-come/ -
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TONIGHT (Sunday 8-10-2014) FBI's "Most Wanted" Brother Mclean "CNN's" "THE HUNT". 1 HOUR INTERVIEW.
by BucketShopBill ingood morning brothers and sisters, remember to watch john walsh interview our brothers and sisters about brother mclean from oregon, the most wanted pedophile and top ten fbi's list of perps!
have a nice day, be cool!.
can you help bump this topic until the show is over, we have large amounts of vistors coming, seeking help and direction.
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Less than 8 minutes to go..
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Fred McLean Still on the Loose
by LostGeneration ina news story led me over the the fbi 10 most wanted, where i see osama is listed as deceased.
that made me think of fred mclean, who i remember being on the us marshall most wanted list.
i went on over there where he is still listed:.
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TONIGHT (Sunday 8-10-2014) FBI's "Most Wanted" Brother Mclean "CNN's" "THE HUNT". 1 HOUR INTERVIEW.
by BucketShopBill ingood morning brothers and sisters, remember to watch john walsh interview our brothers and sisters about brother mclean from oregon, the most wanted pedophile and top ten fbi's list of perps!
have a nice day, be cool!.
can you help bump this topic until the show is over, we have large amounts of vistors coming, seeking help and direction.
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Only an hour to go..
Recording devices at the ready...